Shopgirl2 asked:
I’m moving into a position that involves some “soft” sales. There’s a salary base and commission bonus option. The salary base would barely cover my current rent after taxes, but since the job comes with a residence and potentially some utilities I wouldn’t be living out of a cardboard box.
I am coming in from a different career so I’m a little nervous about this move. That is a normal response, don’t you think? Overall the package is great, but some much of the offer is promised and wrapped in “potential.”
I know you’re supposed to push in salary negotiation, but I just don’t want to push so much I push myself out of the door. I guess I usually have some references for stuff like this and right now I’m blind. I’ve already negotiated an apartment which wasn’t part of the original deal. Question: In salary negotiation how do you know when to say when? Do you just ask until you come up against a No? As the pot sweetens when are you just seen as greedy?
Thanks everyone, I appreciate your advice. I think the thing about this that sticks in my craw is during the initial conversation with the employer he said he’d raise my salary up at least to a certain minimum. However over the course of two weeks that offer went out the window. I don’t want to press it too hard because we’re just getting started here in this work relationship. Also, while I understand it’s hard to get into a great deal of detail over email I’ve asked for specific information and I sort of get we’ll talk about that later. I realize this person is incredibly ridicously busy and maybe he doesn’t see the relevance in thoroughly answering every question because he’s looking at the big picture. The one thing I don’t want to do is project uncertainty. Still there’s an offer in the wings for something else and I don’t want to weigh this offer unfairly against the other one. It’s hard to do so with such a basic outline….
I’m moving into a position that involves some “soft” sales. There’s a salary base and commission bonus option. The salary base would barely cover my current rent after taxes, but since the job comes with a residence and potentially some utilities I wouldn’t be living out of a cardboard box.
I am coming in from a different career so I’m a little nervous about this move. That is a normal response, don’t you think? Overall the package is great, but some much of the offer is promised and wrapped in “potential.”
I know you’re supposed to push in salary negotiation, but I just don’t want to push so much I push myself out of the door. I guess I usually have some references for stuff like this and right now I’m blind. I’ve already negotiated an apartment which wasn’t part of the original deal. Question: In salary negotiation how do you know when to say when? Do you just ask until you come up against a No? As the pot sweetens when are you just seen as greedy?
Thanks everyone, I appreciate your advice. I think the thing about this that sticks in my craw is during the initial conversation with the employer he said he’d raise my salary up at least to a certain minimum. However over the course of two weeks that offer went out the window. I don’t want to press it too hard because we’re just getting started here in this work relationship. Also, while I understand it’s hard to get into a great deal of detail over email I’ve asked for specific information and I sort of get we’ll talk about that later. I realize this person is incredibly ridicously busy and maybe he doesn’t see the relevance in thoroughly answering every question because he’s looking at the big picture. The one thing I don’t want to do is project uncertainty. Still there’s an offer in the wings for something else and I don’t want to weigh this offer unfairly against the other one. It’s hard to do so with such a basic outline….
I was in sales for 14 years I was paid minimum wage plus commission I averaged 33 to 50 thousand a year,know your product and prices treat the customer like a brother or sister someone you have known all your life ask for the sale but never push also qualify the customer for the purchase always remember who,what ,why,when and where. good luck selling is a gift you either have it or you don’t
Comment by JOHN C T — April 21, 2009 @ 5:43 am
Some can make easily over 100k it depends on the thing your selling. If I were you, I would get a degree and try to sell pharmaceuticals. You’ll make sick cash doing that.
Comment by empallice — April 23, 2009 @ 5:32 am
When considering if an offer is acceptable, you need to weigh all of the job benefits, not just the salary. Things to keep in mind are the residence you refer to and the other items in the package offered.
In salary negotiation, be honest with yourself and with your employer. If you know the pay just isn’t enough to satisfy you, then you’re just delaying the inevitable job change by settling for less. However, if your expectations are unreasonable, maybe you need to re-evaluate what you should truly be paid.
Low salary often comes with commission based positions. This is to motivate sales staff to sell more. If the salary is too high, there is no motivation to achieve more.
Good luck on your decision.
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